Talk:Fencing Lessons/@comment-38965291-20190404220642

Since there’s so many comments, I may as well post this write up I did for “Hidden Messages of The Nilfgaardian Kind” (the relevant stuff is in the third and last paragraph). In short, I think we might have assumed Rosa was more shallow than she was:

I’m not sure if this has been posted anywhere else, but I’ll post what I found/a theory:

-If you travel to the rear entrance to the Van Attre estate, you find a letter mentioning Albert Vegelbud introducing Rosa.

-The letter found during this quest mentions the party, trade merchant support, and H. Hammelfort. There’s a Nilfgardian trade report that can be found in the Van Attre house that mentions the last two, and if you follow one of the tunnels in this quest it eventually leads to the back entrance of the Van Attre estate, almost exactly where you find the love letter from Gilbert Blith.

-My theory: Rosa was the “girl” intended to enter the Vegelbud’s party, and she was passing this info to her father. Since these spies don’t appear to be from Nilfgaard, it’s safe to assume they were either one of Dykstra’s men (part of his power grab, but a few things make this problematic) or more likely Thaler/Roche’s since they mention talks were ongoing during “Reasons of State”, and the diplomatic report also state that their agents “confirmed earlier reports contending that King Radovid has important plans for Novigrad”, and we know Roche has been in direct contact with him.

-Also, when he’s freed from the trolls, Thaler’s wagon is right outside the Seven Cats Inn...which right where Rosa was running off to in Fencing Lessons (that whole quest was off to me on my first play through. If this theory holds, it makes a little more sense.)

-One last edit, I need to try it out but Ive read in a couple other places the “shady individuals” you can follow to start this quest, or finish it, but only if you’ve done Rosa’s main story quest.